All Things You Need to Know about 21700 Battery
Tesla, Mass Production of 21700 Battery
Recently, Tesla Inc together with Panasonic announced a new model of li-ion battery cell–21700, , they also stressed that at present this is the highest energy density and low cost of li-ion battery that goes to mass production, Another lithium ion battery leader, Samsung SDI also announced the same characteristics of the new battery 21700, sooner or later,we can feel the changes.
1.1.18650 Are Best for Early Stages of Electric Vehicles
18650 batteries with its characteristics of highly mature technology, a high degree of automation, guaranteed battery and lower costs (2Ah/USD/Cell) is the best choice to power electric vehicles in the early stages to make cost down.
2170 and 18650 Size
However, 18650 Cell is very limited by its size volume, which is generally between 2.0-2.6AH/cell for mass production. At present, while there is a huge demand for more energy density for lithium battery, the current 18650 cell can’t increase much on capacity.
Related: Cylindrical 18650/21700 Batteries More Suitable For Electric Vehicles?
1.2. Upgrade the Model
There are mainly 2 Ways to increase the power density of the lithium battery :
#1: improving/changing the mechanism of the lithium battery material, which needs new material development and progress is slow.
#2: Changing its physical size or production process.
At present, without a huge breakthrough in battery materials, starting from the product design model, ie: increase in the battery “diameter and length” to achieve a higher capacity will be our final choice. The 18650 has completed its historical mission, the future of “XL” lithium battery model is now coming.
2. 21700 Battery Performance and Cost
2.1. battery energy density can be increased by more than 20%
21700 battery power density is better than 18650 batteries. According to the current disclosure of Tesla, under the existing conditions, the energy density of 21700 battery systems is approximately 20% higher than the 250WH to the original 18650-300 Wh battery system. At the same time, according to the Panasonic lithium battery power test in monomer batteries, the bulk density of its 21,700 battery is significantly higher than that of the 18650 cell monomer.
Below is table for comparison of 21700 vs 18650
Type | Size | Capacity | Weight | Energy Density | Cost |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
18650 | Diameter 18mm | 2200-3600mAh | 45-48g | 250Wh/ksg Tesla |
185$/KWh |
Length 65mm | |||||
21700 | Diameter 21mm | 3000-4800mAh | 60-665g | 300Wh/ksg Tesla |
170$/KWh |
Length 70mm |
Table 1: 21700 batteries and 18650 comparison
2.2. battery system cost down by about 9%
21700 costs decreased by about 9%. According to Tesla, the battery information disclosed in the price, the 21,700 lithium battery system is expected to sell for $ 170 ., Compared to the price of 18650 for $ 185, the price decline may be about 8.1%. 18650 system costs about 171 US dollars, MH, the transition to 21700, the cost of the system can be about 9% of the decline, to 155 US dollars Zhn.
Samsung says that after switching to a new 21700 battery, the system can reduce the component and weight by 10% compared to the current battery. Thus, further reduction in the weight of the battery, the energy density of the entire machine will be partially updated.
2.3. But Why 21700, not Other Types?
In comparison with other types of lithium ion battery cells,21700 is of course not the best Performance ever battery cell, but it is the best choice for energy density and energy cost.The physical dimensions of the cylindrical cores increase not only the energy density but also the productivity coefficient of cyclic life. It is assumed that the capacity of 10% per liter, the life cycle will be reduced by a factor of about 20%, charge-discharge to reduce $, and the core will have about 20% temperature increase. If you continue to increase the Size, you will increase the risk of damage to safety.
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Discussion: Advantages and Disadvantages of 21700 Battery
In the economic aspect, the cylindrical core rises to the mature process of 18650, and the cost is carried out in a prerequisite to guarantee a good product price and consistency. If the size is too large, security and manufacturability will shrink, leading to a larger cylinder of 26500, 32650, and therefore not large-scale to occupy the main cause of the market.
3. 21700 Battery in Actual Production
What about other manufacturers?
Will all main lithium battery manufacturer join the competition for the new 21700/20700 type battery market?
What 21700 cells can be found in the market and their performance?
let’s find them out.
We here listed below all main 21700 battery cell that is on sale with their main specification respectively (you can download their specifications/datasheet in pdf format)
Further Reading:
1 TESLA improves lithium-ion battery techonlogy
2 4050mAh 18650 Battery Cell Invented in China
3 18650 Battery Cell Manufacturing Process
4 Free Lithium Battery Design Ebook
5.Will Tesla 21700 replace 18650?
6. 21700 VS 18650?
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The first thing you need to know is that there’s no such thing as a Telsa 21700 cell. Everybody keeps using 2170 and 21700 interchangeably, and they’re not the same thing. They’re different chemistries and construction.
Do anybody have a source of ANY 21700 or 2170 Panasonic/Tesla/Sanyo? Aside from buying used cells from crashed Tesla Model 3? Looks like they are not produced in China at all. Any other sources? South Korea? Japan?
Panasonic makes the 2170’s for Tesla at Gigafactory 1 in Nevada.
WHERE IS PANASONIC CELLS ?
ITS ARE BETTERS
I suggest you read the following scientific publication written in 2018 by the Germans: Energy Density of Cylindrical Li-Ion Cells: A Comparison of
Commercial 18650 to the 21700 Cells. The link to download the report is below—-its free.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328396021_Energy_Density_of_Cylindrical_Li-Ion_Cells_A_Comparison_of_Commercial_18650_to_the_21700_Cells
Since they were using different unknown manufacture’s cells, it is difficult to determine which is better. It appears there is only about 2-3% difference between the 18650 & 21700 cell for weight and volume in energy but hard to tell.
Read and decide for yourself. “Therefore, the 20700 and 21700 cells do not show a significant increase of specific energy compared to 18650 cells which would originate from the size difference. A stronger difference is observed between cells of the same format which are optimized either for high energy or for high power”.
“Conclusions:… The energy content per cell can be higher by ∼50% for 21700 compared to 18650”. I’m not sure what they are referring to there. Hard to come to any conclusions. It seems that if one is using these to manufacture a battery then the cost is less for the 21700…
thanks for sharing the info
I know of several people in electric wheel chairs. Battery strength and longivity as well as recharge rate are pretty important as well as cost. I am trying to learn how the 21700 battery technology can be if it their 24 volt systems.
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Thanks for your post
“It appears there is only about 2-3% difference between the 18650 & 21700 cell for weight and volume in energy but hard to tell.” – – – – This quote is in regard to ENERGY DENSITY not capacity.
is it confirmed that SDI is producing also 21700 battery?
yes, see above PDF datasheet(in the blog post) of Samsung cells
Good day . . .Quick question. Is there a recommended charging current for the Samsung 30T 21700 battery?
it’s already in it’s datasheet
trying to understand a little more about these two cells. Is the 18650 what Tesla used to use in its batteries? And now they use the 21700?
correct
Hi, I work at space flight center and am thinking about the 21700 for high altitude power
Several things are important to us, including energy density, power density, number of recharge cycles, and how does the battery deal with environmental conditions
will add more details on these aspect, stay tuned
I am designing a battery operated tool and would like it to use (16) 21700 batteries. the configuration would be a 4 x 4 x 4. So groups of 4, assembled end to end. the final package would be aprox 42mm x 42mm x 280 lg. what would the estimated cost and delivery be? qty would be 25000 first year. I am looking for rough estimate to determine viability for price target. Thank you
do you have anything in a similar configuration already?
are (2) rows ( sided by side) cheaper? That would be (2) rows of (8) batteries? I see you have a picture on your website of this type of product
please see our reply from sales@www.dnkpower.com
I’ve 150 model 3 21700 cells im wanting to make a battery for my ebike out of but want to know what budget conscious bmss are suited foe the model 3 cel
if you want a budget of BMS for your ebike, there are several factors
1 where you buy
2 battery voltage
3 battery output current
4 battery communication
there are many factors to influence the BMS prices, so need to treat each design seperately.
I would like to make a UPS for my home alarm system and my TMobile 5g Nokia gateway/router. In Texas storm we lost power for 5 days straight. What should I consider?
Hi Jo, make sure the battery volatge is correct
The one piece of information I was looking for about the Tesla model 3 21700 is the discharge rate in Amps. I see a chart for lots of other cells with this data, why isnt the tesla cell listed?
because there is no formal datasheet from Tesla(at least, we don’t have that file )
just noting as there is some conflict of opinion, 2170 and 21700 are virtually the same battery and used interchangeable to describe a product 21.0 x 70.0mm. Panasonic along with LG and Sanyo are making 2170’s in Japan.
I expect this is a dumb question but how do these batteries compare with rechargeable AA batteries? Are rechargeable AA batteries being improved with this technology.
Where can i find 21700 shells manufacturer for my batteries
google Stainless Steel 21700